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Dan Elrod's avatar

After our break from the Iliad, I was happy to turn to the Odyssey and Matthews excellent and thought-provoking essays. For additional background and context, I highly recommend that readers of the Fagles translation take the time to read the introduction.

Regarding the first question you pose, it is interesting to compare and contrast the role of divine intervention in the Iliad with what we have seen so far in the Odyssey. In the Iliad, we learned that divine will and action are not necessarily supreme, but are subject to fate. In Book one of the Odyssey, we learn that divine intervention can lay the ground work (or first principles) for human action, but that human choices in reaction to the intervention/first principles ultimately determine the outcome. Combining these two lessons, does this mean that human agency (freewill) is the sine qua non of fate? It's an interesting question to ponder.

I can't really put my finger on why, but so far the Odyssey seems more modern to me than the Iliad. Maybe it's because the the Iliad is about an epic battle of ancient armies layered with very personal interactions, while the Odyssey feels like an adventure/mystery story with palace intrigue, personal quest against long odds and ultimate triumph of personal courage - themes we see throughout modern literature and popular culture.

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Lucy's avatar

After two intelligence and well said comments, I’m just going to say I’m grasping the story and the concepts which - I’m very happy about. I agree The Odyssey is timeless and reflects the way of humans then and now. A great beginning.

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