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Diana Shmulburd's avatar

Firstly, I love the images you include in your essays. The way that visual art and literature interact and inform our understanding of each is always really interesting.

How we perceive various characters in literature is informed by how society depicts them. There is a good analysis of the evolution of Helen’s character through the ages in Bettany Hughes’ book on her - which I highly recommend for archeological background on the Iliad etc.

In relation to heroism vs hubris - I am not sure that a lot of the time there is a difference. I think that for heroism not to have an element of hubris it needs to be private and not in seeking honor or glory - so it would be hard to find in the epics.

I still struggle with the “god(ess) made me do it” excuse/ reason which pervades the Iliad - when others and not the hero have to bear the burden of the consequences of the hero’s actions. But that applies to more than just the Iliad.

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Tiffany Chu's avatar

The fact that Homer named so many insignificant players throughout the epic is something that struck me in this chapter, too, for the same reasons. Even though this war is huge, reading these names was a stark reminder of how individual it truly is. He even gives some context to some of their deaths, like who they left behind and mourned for them.

Interestingly, I didn't read Diomedes as heroic this time around, even though he's clearly intended to be interpreted as such. Maybe it was the framing of how he attacked Aphrodite as she was trying to protect her son. That rather made my blood boil. After that, it coloured all his other slaughters.

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